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kevinandmary80
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posted 30 June 2009 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kevinandmary80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My late mother-in-late often spoke lovingly of her homeplace near Holycross in Co. Tipperary. It sounded like Shepari with the emphasis on the last i. It does not sound like an Irish placename to me. Can anybody throw any light on it?
Go raibh maith agaibh
Mary

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enfield
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posted 30 June 2009 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enfield     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I live in Holycross and the only place that sounds remotely like is Shevry pronounded locally as shev-air-eye and is in the parish of Upperchurch not a million miles from here.
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posted 30 June 2009 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kevinandmary80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. That is it! I remember she spoke about Upperchurch. Was wondering about the origin of the name.
Go raibh míle maith agat
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posted 30 June 2009 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enfield     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Upperchurch is a parish up in the mountains. There is even a lower Church below it, believe it or not. There is a great music session in Phil Murrays pub there of a Monday.
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kevinandmary80
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posted 30 June 2009 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kevinandmary80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a placename called Lowerchurch as well? I have been looking at Irish Placemames by Deirdre and Laurence Flanagan but can find nothing which would indicate the meaning of the name Shevry. The only "she" sound that I can think of is sean as is old.
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posted 30 June 2009 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enfield     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not a placename, an actual Church, there is an upper Church and there is a lower Church.
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Tom.

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posted 06 July 2009 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sloinne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by enfield:
Not a placename, an actual Church, there is an upper Church and there is a lower Church.
Regards.
Tom.


the placename database at logainm.ie gives the Irish name for Shevry as Seithe Bhreighe.Seithe usually means animal skins I am not sure about Bhreighe it could be related to Bréag = false.

Clare

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enfield
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posted 07 July 2009 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enfield     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really did not want to get into this but now that you have gone down that road here we go. Remember that Irish words sometimes used in Placenames are not generally the translation they would be given when used in ordinary language.
There are two variations of the anglicized word, Shevry and Sheverie.
Irish variations are Seithe Bhreighe, Siodhbhruigh and Siodh Bruigh and they all mean the fairy manshion.
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kevinandmary80
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posted 08 July 2009 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kevinandmary80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much, Clare and Tom
I'm glad the there is an Irish name for it.
Reminds me of Killashee Cill na Sí in Longford
Many thanks
Mary

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