I've been pondering about Croyle since you posted it. As with Tom, I couldn't find a thing. Just because the spelling is clear in the census doesn't mean much.....the census taker wrote down what he heard. If the person being interviewed was illiterate, they would be unable to correct the census taker. Sort of the same situation that arose with the Irish entering the U.S. in the 1840's.

I went through some street maps of Tralee I have, as well as plenty of area maps. No Croyle. As you know, Google finds only the letters that you have written on the subject, and no others.

I suspect that there was a vowel between the C and the r, which when spoken, was not clearly heard. Unfortunately, that doesn't help much by itself. The "oyle" isn't very Irish (although there is an Oilgate in Co. Wexford).

I don't think I can give any more advice on this one. I notice that you've posted to a message board. I don't believe that the Kerry mailing list is "gatewayed" to the message boards, as some Rootsweb Irish county lists are - so your query would not have been seen by the most expert bunch on Kerry matters. You might want to consider joining that list. To subscribe, here's the info:

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This may also be one of those places that lurks in the borders of Kerry and Limerick, I can locate Abbeyfeale and also West Abbeyfeale.
I guess my question is which direction is "opposite Abbeyfeale" and where is it in relation to Ballingary ?

Looking at the area around Abbeyfeale, there is a small hill just 2 miles due west of it, in Duagh civil parish, Co. Kerry. The hill is in the townland of Knocknacrohy, and I'd guess that this is probably the name of the hill, too. There are plenty of hills in the area around Abbeyfeale, but this "Knock" is the nearest to the Croyle spelling. However, I'm not optimistic. I'll leave the "crohy" up to Tom, as I'd only copy the meanings of the word from his book, anyway [gr]. I'll look around a bit more, but I have low expectations.

Regarding Ballingarry, the nearest Ballingarry would be about 18 miles to the ENE, in Co. Limerick

Looking at maps again of the area I found the following:

http://www.maplandia.com/ireland/mid-west/limerick/

If you zoom into the place of Abbeyfeale West there are several street names that are close to the spelling of "Croyle":

Cryle View Manor
Cryle View Close
Gleann Cryle

If these three streets are facing the hill/townland of Knocknacrohy then all sorts of possibilities exist !! Maybe I am clutching at straws?

I'm on a slow dial-up, so I can't use the various detailed on-line map sites. But the town of Abbeyfeale (population, 1,940 in 2006) stretches for a couple of miles along the N 21 national road, and crosses between the townlands of Abbeyfeale West and Abbeyfeale East. Most of the town is located in the A. West townland. I don't have any maps which give street names for this small town, although most (perhaps all) of the streets are shown on Discovery map 72.

That's about all I have.

Tony

[This message has been edited by tonyl (edited 10 May 2010).]

Thanks for your message.
That is about as close as anyone has come to an explanation for the place CROYLE.
The aunt that gave this place name as her birth place had a sister who gave her birth place as Tralee. I guess we are in the right area.
I had hoped to find her when Kerry opened up its records, however I have not been sucessful in finding any of my Clifford relatives in Tralee/Kerry.

Best Regards
StuartC

Many thanks,

Regards

Thanks for the info. I was aware that the Clifford name was spelled differently in by gone times, but have not had any luck with that either.