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igroves Member Posts: 6 |
Hi All - Can anyone tell me what Irish county Tullyselferty is or was in? Irene IP: Logged |
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enfield Moderator Posts: 481 |
This is a strange one. Even after searching in out of date names this townland did not come up, nor even anything close to it and the only information on the net are your own postings. If this is the real spelling it beats me. All I can tell you is that Tully is a root word and used mainly in the Northern Counties i.e. Monaghan, Tyrone, cavan, Fermanagh, Meath,Down, Sligo, Armagh.etc More rarely used in counties below these. Tully means the Little hill or Hillock. Tom IP: Logged |
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igroves Member Posts: 6 |
Enfield - Thanks for the info. I had a feeling that this might be the case. This name shows up as the birthplace of a possible rellie. Hopefully the person giving me this connection can provide more info. Like maybe info from an actual birth record. Thanks again. IP: Logged |
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Pete Schermerhorn Moderator Posts: 156 |
The townland of Tullyshelferty is in Kilmore civil parish, Co. Monaghan. It is about four and a half miles SSE of Monaghan town. It should be shown on Discoverer map 28, but the NI maps are grossly inferior to the Discovery ones, as regards identification of townlands. If it were shown on the map, it would be at about 690 270, just NE of Radrum. Sorry I didn't get to this earlier, but I'm just back from a month in rainy Ireland. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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enfield Moderator Posts: 481 |
Pete my compliments!! finding that was a real cracker, how did you find it? What was your source? regards. Tom. IP: Logged |
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igroves Member Posts: 6 |
Pete - Thanks a heap. This info is great. My connection to this info as so far only been able to tell me it was in Co. Monaghan. Knowing where exactly is great. And, thanks to you, too, Enfield. You of unflagging assistance. You guys are both great. Irene IP: Logged |
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Pete Schermerhorn Moderator Posts: 156 |
Tom, I'm not sure I should be cluttering-up this website with the various schemes I use to locate Irish townlands......but, what the hell, it's only words - not life and death. For several years, I have been helping subscribers of various county genealogy mailing lists from the Republic find various townlands, etc. I joined these lists as a means of gleaning some historical information (I don't do any genealogy) about places of interest to me - I make regular trips to Ireland to photograph Early Christian (and a bit of Romanesque medieval, too) sites. But things turned around. Although I still do "my" thing, I found myself acquiring more source material for helping others in their quests - very unlike me to be eleemosynary however, I'm afraid. I have since acquired all of the Discovery Series maps, whatever Discoverer maps I need to complete the coverage of the Republic, the full set of 169 Townland Index maps which show all of the townland boundaries in the lower 26 counties........and I have the entire Townland Listings from the mid-1800's on convenient Excel files. So I'm pretty well set. Oh yes, and I projected transparencies of the county civil parish maps onto the Discovery maps with my photo enlarger and traced-in (with a highlighter) all of the CP borders, to quicken my searches for townlands. In the particular case in question, I just went to the late John Broderick's seanruad.com website, and entered Tully in the search engine - checking "beginning with" in the box. I got, as I recall, 588 Tully-related townlands, but was able to quickly scan down until Tullyshelferty appeared. Then to Brian Mitchell's "A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland" for the civil parish location, then to the Discoverer map (where it doesn't appear) and then to the Townland Index maps (where it does). Referring back to the Discoverer map, I then placed it. Simple. And surprisingly quicker than all of the time it took me to describe the process !!!!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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igroves Member Posts: 6 |
Pete - I hate to be such a bother. . . .oh, who am I trying to kid? I'm female. That's what we do best. giggle Many thanks, again, IP: Logged |
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enfield Moderator Posts: 481 |
http://ahd.exis.net/monaghan/baronies.htm IP: Logged |
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igroves Member Posts: 6 |
Enfield - Thank you muchly. I'm beginning to think the Irish folk are amoung the nicest and most helpful. Irene in California IP: Logged |
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enfield Moderator Posts: 481 |
Anything to help. IP: Logged |
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enfield Moderator Posts: 481 |
It really must be a very small place because there are now only 4 households in Tullyshelferty. If you wish to contact them they are; Name: Connolly A Address: Tullyshelferty Dunraymond Directory Area: 04 Type: Residential Telephone Number: 042-9744946 Name: McMahon Ml Address: Tullyshelferty Dunraymond Directory Area: 04 Type: Residential Telephone Number: 042-9744308 Name: McMahon Owen Name: McMahon Patk IP: Logged |
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igroves Member Posts: 6 |
Enfield - Thanks for the additional info. I'm going to check my records and see if any of the boarders listed in the GARVIN and GROVES households share these names. Irene California IP: Logged |
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