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gduffy
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posted 28 December 2001 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gduffy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A distant cousin recently sent me a copy of a brief genealogy composed by a family member probably between 1850 and 1875. It identifies a place named Kindrum, Co. Roscommon as being the home of a landowner named Matthew Conry in 1831. At the present time, there are no townlands in Co. Roscommon of that or similar sounding names. There is a townland by that name in Co. Donegal, but this doesn't appear to be an option. I wonder if the name was changed at some point after 1831. I would very much appreciate help with this. Thank you.

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marg41
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posted 05 March 2004 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for marg41     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could it be the parish of Drum in the Barony of Athlone Co Roscommon.If you check out the 1901 census on www.leitrim-roscommon.com you will find 3 families of Conry in the parish of Drumatemple which is also on Co Roscommon. It's a long shot , but it may help.
Margaret

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gduffy
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posted 04 September 2009 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gduffy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by marg41:
Could it be the parish of Drum in the Barony of Athlone Co Roscommon.If you check out the 1901 census on www.leitrim-roscommon.com you will find 3 families of Conry in the parish of Drumatemple which is also on Co Roscommon. It's a long shot , but it may help.
Margaret


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gduffy
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posted 04 September 2009 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gduffy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgive me. I seemed to have mistakenly sent a copy of a previous reply to my original message. However, I still am looking for this same placename, Kindrum, Co. Roscommon. I have found four references to this place in Co. Roscommon, three spelled Kindrum and a fourth older (18th century) reference spelled Kendrum. One of these references came from an old family document. It was an estate of a landed family named Conry, the above references being published marriage license bonds. A Mathew Conry lived there in 1831. I suspect it was an estate name. It certainly was not the Kindrum of Co. Donegal. I'm inclined to think that it was not Kildrum, as someone has suggested. I wonder if the Ordnance Survey Letters may hold a clue. Thanks.

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posted 04 September 2009 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enfield     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is where the bould Pete comes into his own with his unequalled collection of Irish maps and placename references. If he cannot find it, its not findable. Over to you Pete.................

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Pete Schermerhorn
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posted 04 September 2009 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Schermerhorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't find any townland of Kindrum/Kendrum in Co. Roscommon, or in the areas of Galway and Mayo which underwent boundary shifts with Roscommon in 1840 and 1898. I made a "quick" check of the Roscommon Ordnance Survey Letters of 1837, but didn't find anything (of course, there are nearly 600 manuscript pages [gr]). And the Letters are arranged by civil parishes which contain "information relative to the Antiquities of the County of Roscommon". For some of the counties, family references are also indexed. But not for Roscommon.

The most likely place to find estate information is on the Connacht Landed Estates website, at: == http://www.landedestates.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/ ==. I didn't find anything under the estate or house name sections, but there are Conrys mentioned in the families section, and I think you'd be interested in that part of the website.

I think that's all I have.

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gduffy
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posted 05 September 2009 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gduffy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Pete, for looking into this. I did check out the Conry information on the landed estate site. There was nothing there that I didn't know already. What a wonderful site, though.

You mentioned that you looked at the Ordnance Survey Letters for Co. Roscommon, apparently from your home in Massachusetts. Is this now on line or do you have a printed version? I'm eager to look at it, not only for information on my Conrys, but for info. on other Roscommon families. I wonder if I can obtain this via inter-library loan?

I would primarily look for my Conrys in the civil parish of Clooncraff. This seems to be an area where this family was established. This also was the area of Co. Roscommon where my O'Fallon ancestors then resided. In 1831 John W. O'Fallon of Drummullin married Jane J. Conry of Kindrum (exact locality unknown). Thanks.

George

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Pete Schermerhorn
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posted 05 September 2009 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Schermerhorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
George,

I visited the old graveyard in Clooncraff in May 2005 looking for, as usual, evidence of Early Christian structures/artifacts. There was nothing there for me.

Regarding the Ordnance Survey Letters, I have a copy of the typeset two-volume transcription of the Roscommon letters, "Reproduced under the direction of Rev. Michael O'Flanagan", in Bray (Co. Wicklow), in 1927. The various volumes of the letters are available from several academic (and a few public) libraries around the Northeast U.S. (at least, that is the area from which I borrowed the books via interlibrary loan).

The section pertaining to Clooncraff is quite extensive, but deals primarily with the pre-15th century history of the parish and area. This section is in Vol. 2 of the Roscommon letters. There is a short section following this (O'Flanagan's pp. 15/16, Mss. pp. 30-34) which caught my eye...... relating to the "seat of the O'Mulconrys" in what is now the townland of Cloonahee, in Clooncraff civil parish. The genealogy of this family through the 13th to 16th centuries is described, and - in 1837, when the letters were written, there was a "present O'Mulconry".......about whom John O'Donovan had nothing good to say. Perhaps the family "lost" the Mul shortly after this? Or not.

You can contact me at PeteScherm@aol.com for more specific information (don't want to clutter the forum more than I already have [gr]).

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